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		<title>Comment on Red Deer Stag with Johnny Kingdom by Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys..great shots and I know how wonderful it is to go on one of Johnnys safaris. Me my wife and daughter went with him last week of September..saw some hinds and young stags from a distance..you must have a great camera or been real close to get those stag shots..well done. I painted a scene of &#039;Johnnys Land&#039; which I gave him and am looking forward to his new 3 part series on bbc4 starting wed nov 3rd. ..Happy tracking. Cheers Davy T :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys..great shots and I know how wonderful it is to go on one of Johnnys safaris. Me my wife and daughter went with him last week of September..saw some hinds and young stags from a distance..you must have a great camera or been real close to get those stag shots..well done. I painted a scene of &#8216;Johnnys Land&#8217; which I gave him and am looking forward to his new 3 part series on bbc4 starting wed nov 3rd. ..Happy tracking. Cheers Davy T <img src='http://www.deerdiary.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by Wildlife-Artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildlife-Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a young fallow buck. Absolutely sure. Considering the time of the year when the picture was made, his body condition and the size of his antlers, I think he is a fairly typical two year old buck whith a good potential for antler growth and physical strength. 

His antlers are still covered in the so-called velvet, a thin skin underneath which the antlers are growing (and which supports the structure with the needed calcium and blood). 
This skin, as it is covered by a rather dense, straight-haired fur, makes the antlers appear much more massive than they will actually be once the velvet is peeled off. 

The &quot;growths&quot; at the bottom - as you called it - is due to the fact that he is already developing his brow tines (sometimes called eye guards or daggers). So this one won&#039;t be a spike, but a four-point buck. In the second year of their lifes (which is the first year a deer of any species develops antlers) fallow males in a good condition - like this one - might already grow bifurcated antlers.

The one in the picture will achieve a little more antler lenght in the following two months, until the velvet will be rubbed off by about the mid of september. By this time, the mature bucks will need their antlers in the territorial fights and later on in the battles for the does. (Mating season / rutting might begin as early as mid octobre.)

This young buck will neither use his antlers nor will he have to fear the dominant males in this season, as he is much too young to participate in the actual rut. He will be accepted in the then mixed herd, while only the oldest bucks will fight each other for the right to breed and regularly drive the males of medium age out of their territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a young fallow buck. Absolutely sure. Considering the time of the year when the picture was made, his body condition and the size of his antlers, I think he is a fairly typical two year old buck whith a good potential for antler growth and physical strength. </p>
<p>His antlers are still covered in the so-called velvet, a thin skin underneath which the antlers are growing (and which supports the structure with the needed calcium and blood).<br />
This skin, as it is covered by a rather dense, straight-haired fur, makes the antlers appear much more massive than they will actually be once the velvet is peeled off. </p>
<p>The &#8220;growths&#8221; at the bottom &#8211; as you called it &#8211; is due to the fact that he is already developing his brow tines (sometimes called eye guards or daggers). So this one won&#8217;t be a spike, but a four-point buck. In the second year of their lifes (which is the first year a deer of any species develops antlers) fallow males in a good condition &#8211; like this one &#8211; might already grow bifurcated antlers.</p>
<p>The one in the picture will achieve a little more antler lenght in the following two months, until the velvet will be rubbed off by about the mid of september. By this time, the mature bucks will need their antlers in the territorial fights and later on in the battles for the does. (Mating season / rutting might begin as early as mid octobre.)</p>
<p>This young buck will neither use his antlers nor will he have to fear the dominant males in this season, as he is much too young to participate in the actual rut. He will be accepted in the then mixed herd, while only the oldest bucks will fight each other for the right to breed and regularly drive the males of medium age out of their territory.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by Ross Moreland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Moreland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I am sure that this is not a Roe deer and is as someone suspected a youngish Fallow Buck. Probably  in its second year where they get a couple of short points on each side, in their first year they are known as &quot; prickets&quot; when they only have spikes. And as Lars said above they grow them under &quot;velvet &quot; untill the antlers are fully grown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I am sure that this is not a Roe deer and is as someone suspected a youngish Fallow Buck. Probably  in its second year where they get a couple of short points on each side, in their first year they are known as &#8221; prickets&#8221; when they only have spikes. And as Lars said above they grow them under &#8220;velvet &#8221; untill the antlers are fully grown.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by Colin Blanchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just browsing Flikr for Roe pics and came across your very fine ones plus this picture here. Definitely a Fallow (Dama dama): &#039;common&#039; colour variant (there are black or melanistic, white and &#039;menil&#039; types too). It is a male (buck) &#039;pricket - i.e youngish (probably about 2yrs old) and the two lumps on the still growing &#039;velvet&#039; covered antlers are the start of what will be &#039;brow points&#039;. keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just browsing Flikr for Roe pics and came across your very fine ones plus this picture here. Definitely a Fallow (Dama dama): &#8216;common&#8217; colour variant (there are black or melanistic, white and &#8216;menil&#8217; types too). It is a male (buck) &#8216;pricket &#8211; i.e youngish (probably about 2yrs old) and the two lumps on the still growing &#8216;velvet&#8217; covered antlers are the start of what will be &#8216;brow points&#8217;. keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Author &#8211; Adam Stafford by Mel and Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel and Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam

This is Mel from Porini camps rhino and lion
lost the small bit of paper with both your emails but remembered the blog sites.
We hoped you had a great time in Lamu and have not lost all the benefits of such an amazing holiday!

If any &#039;photo available of Nick&#039;s Masai Mara birthday celebration could be sent to him that would be great!
Would love to email Shelley. Hope this reaches.

Mel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam</p>
<p>This is Mel from Porini camps rhino and lion<br />
lost the small bit of paper with both your emails but remembered the blog sites.<br />
We hoped you had a great time in Lamu and have not lost all the benefits of such an amazing holiday!</p>
<p>If any &#8216;photo available of Nick&#8217;s Masai Mara birthday celebration could be sent to him that would be great!<br />
Would love to email Shelley. Hope this reaches.</p>
<p>Mel</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arthur the Oak Tree by Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is an amazing shot. Can you drop me an email please as I would like to discuss using it in some marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this is an amazing shot. Can you drop me an email please as I would like to discuss using it in some marketing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;weirdness&quot; is that the antlers are covered with a so called fur, this fur covers the antlers until they are fully grown. When the antlers are fully grown, the roe deers rub them against trees and such to get the fur off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;weirdness&#8221; is that the antlers are covered with a so called fur, this fur covers the antlers until they are fully grown. When the antlers are fully grown, the roe deers rub them against trees and such to get the fur off.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Red Deer Stag with Johnny Kingdom by deerdiary</title>
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		<dc:creator>deerdiary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the photos looked squashed here - click on them to get a better picture...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the photos looked squashed here &#8211; click on them to get a better picture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bambi &#8211; Baby Roe Deer and Mum &#8211; 15th June 2008 @ 3.45pm by Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A brilliant photo, of which there need to be more of, to make those who don&#039;t know exactly what they are looking at!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brilliant photo, of which there need to be more of, to make those who don&#8217;t know exactly what they are looking at!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on About the Author &#8211; Adam Stafford by Andy "ere me now" Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy "ere me now" Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am proud to be that &quot;best mate&quot; who he made lie on his concrete driveway for 7 hours waiting for a mouse to never come along! We must of been no more than seven or eight at the time. I&#039;m gald to see he has improved his techniques in finding wildlife. Go Staff go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am proud to be that &#8220;best mate&#8221; who he made lie on his concrete driveway for 7 hours waiting for a mouse to never come along! We must of been no more than seven or eight at the time. I&#8217;m gald to see he has improved his techniques in finding wildlife. Go Staff go!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by Andy "ere me now" Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy "ere me now" Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doe, a deer, a female deer
Ray, a drop of golden sun
Me, a name I call myself
Far, a long long way to run
Sew, a needle pulling thread
La, a note to follow sew
Tea, I drink with jam and bread
That will bring us back to do...oh oh oh

Doe, a deer, a female deer
Ray, a drop of golden sun
Me, a name I call myself
Far, a long long way to run
Sew, a needle pulling thread
La, a note to follow sew
Tea, I drink with jam and bread
That will bring us back to Do

Doe, a deer, a female deer
Ray, a drop of golden sun
Me, a name I call myself
Far, a long long way to run
Sew, a needle pulling thread
La, a note to follow sew
Tea, I drink with jam and bread
That will bring us back to do

Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doe, a deer, a female deer<br />
Ray, a drop of golden sun<br />
Me, a name I call myself<br />
Far, a long long way to run<br />
Sew, a needle pulling thread<br />
La, a note to follow sew<br />
Tea, I drink with jam and bread<br />
That will bring us back to do&#8230;oh oh oh</p>
<p>Doe, a deer, a female deer<br />
Ray, a drop of golden sun<br />
Me, a name I call myself<br />
Far, a long long way to run<br />
Sew, a needle pulling thread<br />
La, a note to follow sew<br />
Tea, I drink with jam and bread<br />
That will bring us back to Do</p>
<p>Doe, a deer, a female deer<br />
Ray, a drop of golden sun<br />
Me, a name I call myself<br />
Far, a long long way to run<br />
Sew, a needle pulling thread<br />
La, a note to follow sew<br />
Tea, I drink with jam and bread<br />
That will bring us back to do</p>
<p>Do re mi fa so la ti do, so do</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bambi &#8211; Baby Roe Deer and Mum &#8211; 15th June 2008 @ 3.45pm by philou</title>
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		<dc:creator>philou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice capture! Beautifull ! Un grand moment d&#039;émotion !</description>
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		<title>Comment on Roe Deer with Weird Antlers or Fallow Deer? &#8211; June 17th 2008 by deerdiary</title>
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		<dc:creator>deerdiary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone think this could be a Fallow Deer?</description>
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		<title>Comment on 28th May 2008 &#8211; Young Roe Stag [Harry] by SHARON</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHARON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is Alberts story?Love the fox cubs and the owl snap is fab.Like Harry but my favourite deer picture is the one in the bluebells.Please buy a big country estate as soon as poss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is Alberts story?Love the fox cubs and the owl snap is fab.Like Harry but my favourite deer picture is the one in the bluebells.Please buy a big country estate as soon as poss.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fox Cub &#8211; 13th June @ 6am by Fresh Egg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Egg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert the Fox Cub :)</description>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Egg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a great SEO for this site!</description>
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		<title>Comment on 28th May 2008 &#8211; Young Roe Stag [Harry] by Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, your patience was rewarded!

Its amazing to think that these beautiful, illusive animals which we so rarely get the opportunity to see in close proximity are virtually living just ten minutes drive away!

The photos are great - what a unique experience to have encountered this timid but strangely inquisitive creature.

I&#039;ll be watching this space for your next adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, your patience was rewarded!</p>
<p>Its amazing to think that these beautiful, illusive animals which we so rarely get the opportunity to see in close proximity are virtually living just ten minutes drive away!</p>
<p>The photos are great &#8211; what a unique experience to have encountered this timid but strangely inquisitive creature.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be watching this space for your next adventure.</p>
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